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Re: steady projectors |
| Marc |
Hello everyone,
I have experimemented several times in the past with transfering 8mm film to video on consumer quality projectors but the image steadiness is not quite good enough for my tastes. Does anybody know what make of projector gives a reasonably steady image for video transfer? It seems that the few projectors that I have tried do not provide the steadiness that would be acceptable for video transfer.
Nearly all of the 8mm projectors have three blade shutters and therefore the footage was transfered at 20fps so it was easy enough to to get a flickerless transfer with just a few adjustments. The only problem that I have had is that the image is not steady enough to be appealing. If anyone can recomend a make of projector that gives a good steady transfer quality image I would appreciate it!
Marc
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| Carlos |
Did you mean standard 8 mm?
This old format is characterized by the poor steadyness of its frames, due generally the simplicity of the haulage mechanism of those old cameras or because the pressure plate doesn't adjust too much the film. (Unless it's be a Bolex H8). You can determine if the problem is in the projector or in the film, Just watch if the line that separates each frame is reduced or it gets wider too much. If this happens, the problem is in the film.
If it is Super 8 mm film, the same thing would can happen (generally in smaller grade). Just check in the same way.
Hope this helps you,
Carlos.
P.S.: Excuse my poor english!
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| Marc |
Carlos,
Your english sounds good. Actually, I have not had much luck with either reg. 8mm projectors or dual 8mm projectors. Maybe you could recomend a brand that has worked for you. Thanks!
Marc
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| Carlos |
Hey Marc,
I got an old Bolex SP8 Super 8 sound projector and a 1950's Bell-Ko-On (Japanese Bell & Howell) 8 mm projector.
Both projectors works very good, specially the Bolex. This one projects a very still image, because it has a double hook mechanism and runs evenly (it's got a synchronous AC motor).
I use this projector to transfer film to videotape and believe me, I obtained very good results.
Anyway, check if the problem is in the projectors or in the films, especially the standard 8 mm ones!!
Carlos.
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| Marc |
Carlos,
Thanks, I would like to appologize because I did not fully answer your first question. The regular 8mm footage was shot with an H-8 reflex (Bolex) and the the frame line is very consistent so I know that the camera is doing an very good job of registering the film. When projecting the the film, the frame line does not sit still enough so it must be the projector. Thankyou for the advice!
Marc
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| moviestuff |
Hi, Marc!
I've always had good results with my Elmo ST1200HD, but I don't know about reg 8. I can tell you which projectors are probably the worst at maintaining the frame line and that would be Chinon projectors. My mom had one that had a frame adjustment on the side that you had to keep readjusting ALL the time. Thr frame line would keep creeping up the picture. Really maddening on a long run.
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| Stig Lundberg |
Hello Marc,
in a test on sound projectors in a Swedish magazine from 1979 there was a comment on the cheapest projector in the test the Bell & Howell Filmosonic 1776,
it had a picture stability near an optical printer !!! Better than the Elmo GS 1200 Beaulieu 708 and all the fancy ones. This would be the one for you. Besides that it didn't get very good results on the sound and optics but thats another matter. The optics could easily be replaced
/Stig
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| Marc |
Thanks everyone,
Does anybody know how good the vertical stability of the Eumig projectors are?
Marc
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| sepe |
Eumig Mark S 800 series projectors are basically similar to the earlier mentioned Bolex SP8. Both are manufactured at Eumig from similar parts. It is even possible to modify the SP8 to run double-8 using the Eumig's interchangeable filmgate and sprocket wheels for double-8.
S.
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